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Wednesday, December 31, 2003

Brazilian Judge: Fingerprinting = Genocide

A Brazilian judge, angry at the new US policy of photographing and fingerprinting incoming immigrants and visitors with visas, retaliated yesterday by requiring US visitors to Brazil to be photographed and fingerprinted as well. It's the kind of tit-for-tat petty revenge that often occurs in diplmatic relations, although rarely does the judiciary figure into it. However, the judge's comments were shocking:

"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," said Federal Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva in the court order released on Tuesday.

Photographing and fingerprinting are "worthy" of gassing millions of people to death? "Worthy" of cruel and medical experiments on helpless prisoners, including and especially children? I guess the Brazilians should know, seeing as they harbored the Nazis for decades after the end of World War II, especially the Angel of Death himself, "Doctor" Josef Mengele. Put up against that, I guess I could see how the learned jurist could overlook the fact that guests to our country murdered 3,000 of our citizens on our soil a couple of years back in an act that goes a lot further to being "worthy" of Nazi atrocities by Brazilian residents than mere fingerprinting and photography.

I guess this incident proves that stupid Nazi analogies aren't limited to the radical leftists in this country, but one would think that government officials from Nazi-sheltering countries might be a little hesitant to toss those stones. In the case of the ridiculous Judge de Silva, one would be wrong.

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If they want to do it, fine, who cares? But here's the funny part. Doing this will drop tourism to/from both countries. Perhaps by a small percent, but it will drop.

A drop off of Brazilian tourists to the U.S. will have no effect on the economy. Zip. Nil.

A drop off of U.S. tourists to Brazil will HURT their economy, which ain't exactly the most robust in the world.


Posted by: Director Mitch at Dec 31, 2003 11:13:18 AM

Instead of the 'flu', this fellow seems to have a bad case of 'CRI'.

Posted by: Stanley H Schwartz at Dec 31, 2003 4:01:02 PM

Seems like it is not just the US judiciary that sees no limit to what they "call their own".
Liked your note to BOTW readers. I will bookmark Captain's Quarters.

Posted by: Jim Hogarty at Dec 31, 2003 6:24:18 PM

Though I'm as infuriated as any American by the Nazi comparison, I think I will point out for the record that the Brazilians did declare war on Nazi Germany a lot earlier than some of the other, more Nazi-sympathetic South American countries (ie Argentina).

In fact I'm pretty sure Brazil sent a division to fight in the Italian campaign and that they have a war graveyard there. I suppose though (like France) that generation has diminshed in size and influence...

Posted by: Paul at Jan 1, 2004 6:33:55 AM

I visited Brazil this fall and was subjected to worse human rights abuses than this to get into it. Not only did they require my photo, but they also required US$50 for the visa!

On a serious note, it makes very good sense for the US to take serious defenses against visitors from Brazil; the country has extremely poor border control. Thousands of people cross the border freely each day from Paraguay, a known terrorist hotspot. Check out my adventures in dangerous Ciudad del Este.

Posted by: Bruce Gottfred at Jan 1, 2004 3:05:51 PM

I´m a brazilian and I think the judge is an asshole. American inteligence found clues that Al-Quaeda terrorists took trips to the south of Brazil and maybe have a base here. Of course I would feel embarassed if a have to fingerprint like a criminal ( by the way - I´m not a terrorist ) but I understand the motivation. And would never say it is a "nazi" look and feel.

Posted by: Fred at Jan 1, 2004 8:46:32 PM

good

Posted by: gama at Jan 2, 2004 2:02:27 AM

I am an American but I have spent a lot of time in Brazil. This judge by no means represents the opinion of the Brazilians that I know, but he does represent the opinion of the International Left, whose idiocy knows no borders. As you might expect, most of the Brazilian Leftists work in higher educaton, the government, or don't work at all.

I like to vacation in Brazil (have gone every year for the past 5 years), but I am pretty sure that I won't do it again if I need to be fingerprinted. Brazil is a great country and the people are wonderful too, but I won't reward the country's corrupt leaders for making stupid comments like that.

Posted by: Ed at Jan 2, 2004 10:21:02 AM

Bruce,

American Embassy here in Brazil charges U$100 for the visa, even if it is denied...

Posted by: Marcus at Jan 2, 2004 5:32:07 PM

$100 for a Brazilian to get into the States? That's a pretty steep cover charge and seems a little unfair. Maybe the judge was right...

Posted by: Bruce Gottfred at Jan 2, 2004 9:19:02 PM

The leftists got the power here. And as Ed said their idiocy really knows no border or limit. Our universities , press and government agencies are fullfilled with this kind of idiots. Be prepared for the next 4 years. They love Fidel, Arafat, Kadafi and all this kind of people. By the way, it was funny to see how disapointed they looked when they saw the images of Iraq people commemorating at the streets when US troops got Saddam ( GREAT JOB ! ). They could not censor the images but they tried all the ways to conduct a misinterpretation of images.

Posted by: Fred at Jan 2, 2004 9:38:50 PM

I didn't know the brazilians hosted Dr. Mengele. I thought he had lived in Argentina? My mother's family was living in the area where he was caught (Tucoman).

Posted by: lauraw at Jan 3, 2004 9:12:48 AM

Whoa! OK, the judge statement is non-sense, but don´t call brazilians nazis, you stupid jerk! You watched "Boys from Brazil" and believed that to be real life? Jesus, you´re so stupid...

Posted by: Andy Machado at Jan 3, 2004 10:37:26 AM

Ah, another satisfied customer ...

I never said Brazilians were Nazis. (Read the post again.) I just said that countries that went out of their way to shelter Nazis should take it easy with the Nazi analogies, especially when they are as silly and groundless as this one was.

Posted by: Captain Ed at Jan 3, 2004 10:47:33 AM

The only thing that remains common in this crazy world is that bedwetting lefists are the same everywhere, including Brazil and the U.S. If we do not protect our borders, they yap like mad dogs. If we do try to protect our borders, they yap even louder. Tell da Silva (da Judge) to get a life, get a set of cajones, and stay the hell home.

Posted by: Barry Clause at Jan 5, 2004 9:45:54 AM

Did the NAZIS also fingerprint innocent people ??
Yes or NO !!
That is the question !

viva brazil

Posted by: barefacts at Jan 6, 2004 8:02:59 AM

Barefacts, if you think that the "worst atrocity" committed by the Nazis was fingerprinting, then you are one sick dude.

FYI, I get fingerprinted for my job on a bi-annual basis (for state licensing), I get thumbprinted for my banking and fingerprinted for my driver's license every four years. Lots of people get fingerprinted who have committed no crime in order to do background checks for employment or security purposes.

Did the Nazis have traffic laws? Did the Nazis have an Immigration department? Did the Nazis have street lights? Yeah. So does Brazil. So does everyone. Get a grip.

Posted by: Captain Ed at Jan 6, 2004 8:28:43 AM

da Silva's declarations are of course stupid and a second thought would have prevented him from doing it (provided he has a brain, which I seriously doubt). Anyway one cannot judge the brazilian people based on the thoughtless actions of a single person who happens to have a law degree. Brazil is a great country, with a great and friendly people, which has seen tremendous progress towards democracy in the recent past. Hopefully, sooner this issue fades away and the american tourist will be welcome in Brazil, as always have been.

Posted by: alac at Jan 6, 2004 2:18:29 PM

fuck USA!

TRUE TERRORISTS

Posted by: BUSH is GAY at Jan 22, 2004 11:52:08 PM

Dr. Mengele DID spend some time in Brazil, check this:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/mengele/epilogue_7.html?sect=6

Posted by: Rodrigo at Jan 23, 2004 2:38:31 AM

Lets for one moment belive that picures and fingerprinting are nazi stuff. So american border patrol were acting as nazi in relation to brazilian citizens. What the judge did? He ordered brazilian customs to act the same way, and as he is the only one who believes it is a nazi act, he himself believes he can practice nazi acts!!! He is a self confessed nazi...!!!!

Posted by: JV at Jan 23, 2004 4:46:39 PM

too the guy who posted as "Bush is Gay"....i dont think hes gay....he is married to a woman...and how are we true terrorists? anyone, please explain this.

Posted by: sean at Apr 23, 2004 5:53:04 PM